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Health Sciences Conference Notes


Notes Taken at the Western Association of Advisors for the Health Professions:WAAHP of the NAAHP Conerence - Submitted by D. Redd

23 - 26 APR 2015

Following are my notes I wrote to share with my counseling colleagues:

There is no repository of Power Points so I am getting copies of as many of them possible. Let me know if you have a particular interest.

  • What Pre-health Students & Advisors Need to Know About Ethics & Excelling on the Multiple Mini-interview by Robert Klitzman, M.D., Professor of psychiatry at Columbia University AKA Bioethics 101: Session for Experienced Advisors:

  • I sat through the session thinking of how could I apply the information to our students & …

  • …I realized we should tell all our students to take bioethics through a class or workshop at a university.

  • They could even take it online.

  • They may not pass the interviews without the related vocabulary & method to frame their responses.

  • Some of the topics:

  • 87 year old woman calls her doc & refuses to talk to anyone else… yet doc for the first time in months was to have dinner with his family

  • Rights of the Unborn Fetus

  • Cancer Treatment Trials

  • Vaccines

  • Children’s Rights

  • Parent’s Rights

  • Children in Research Projects

  • Risk vs Benefits

  • Work-life Balance

  • Engage by Telephone With Patient to Determine Urgency

  • Autonomy: Whose? Limits?

  • Beneficence: Doing good - Sister not wanting to donate a kidney to a sibling… What to do or say?

(P.S. From real life: One of the WAAHP Leadership is donating a kidney to her husband.)

  • Non-maleficence: Avoiding Harm

  • Expect to answer questions about Obama Care

  • Consequential Approach: Greatest good for the greatest number of people

  • What about the minority group?

  • Address Transparent & Fair Processes

  • May Not Have Right/Wrong Answer

  • Familiarity of Bioethics in Foreign Countries – Needed!

  • New Doctors Leaving Rural Areas After Two - Three Years

  • Big USA Problem: Docs stay in Rural Areas only long enough to have loans forgiven; Docs not willing to work in rural areas; Rural healthcare needs are not adequately addressed

  • BOTTOM LINE:

  • Students need to know the terminology of bioethics & how to set up problems & issues –

  • Get our students to take university level BIOETHICS!

  • Think Critically & Logically

  • Think of Cost Benefits

  • NAAHP Best Practices for Institutions & Advisors

~HEALTH SCIENCES ADVISING IS A DISTINCT PROFESSION~

  • We talked in small groups.

  • More focused on universities

  • Suggested that I contact one health sciences school and have them spend the day at MC – Include the students coming out to form panels.

  • I direct you to the Best Practices materials on the NAAHP/WAAHP Websites

  • Membership Business Meeting

  • They are begging community colleges to join.

  • The Community College Standout Person is:

Dr. Carmen Rexach (Prof. of Biology) Phone: (909) 274-4223 E-mail: crexach@mtsac.edu Mt. San Antonio College, Room 60-2109 1100 N Grand Ave, Walnut, CA 91789 Visit our website: http://instruction2.mtsac.edu/caduceus Carmen Rexler of Mt. San Antonio College where she heads a Post-Bac program and hosts the yearly Caduceus Conference. Please get to know her.

  • Eileen Tom of Orange Coast College: Spearheading Community College Membership Initiative: I have volunteered to help her.

  • WAAHP will now be a stand-alone organization

  • Has increased membership from 100 to 250 over 10 years.

  • I joined in 1994

  • I find that they send resources that are worth more than the membership fee.

  • The WAAHP is attempting to be the national leader in community college health sciences advising.

  • Due to my active involvement in the career development associations, Moorpark College needs additional representation (Donny? Lydia? Lynn? Biology Faculty?)

  • I am dropping off the NAAHP committee for community colleges because they have not been active.

  • I will join the WAAHP Community College Initiative.

  • Short fall of geriatricians (1% MD & 3% of RN are trainee to work specifically with the aging population).

  • How to make it sexy profession for young health care students?

  • AAMC: MCAT: New Exam: www.amc/org/mcat2015exam

  • Critical Thinking

  • Think like Scientist

  • Underscores Role of Sociocultural Impact on Health

  • Underscores Influence of Socioeconomics on Health

  • Belief that the Score is More Accurate

  • Four Sections

  • Requires Broader Preparation

  • Biochemistry, Psychology, Sociology are new additions

  • 5 big ideas in Natural Science

  • Slightly more time allowed per question should help English as second language and disabled applicants

  • Overall more questions

  • 6 hours and 15 minutes

  • KHAN Academy Videos are good for students who cannot afford to pay for test prep classes.

  • Holistic Review Practices in Medical School Admissions – Transforming into One that Includes Empathy- A Panel of Medical School Admission Officers:

  • Five Aspirant Case Studies:

  • African American Single Mom, Financially Advantage; Above Average GPA, High MCAT Score

  • 19 years of age; First Generation; Vietnamese; Volunteers in LGBT Center; has A.S. in Biology

  • 27 year old Salvadorian Female Immigrant; Good Grades

  • White Male; Average Student; Struggled in O-Chem

  • 23 years of age; Native American Male from Urban City; Disabled and Uses a Wheel Chair

  • THESE CASE STUDY STUDENTS WERE ACCEPTED INTO MEDICAL SCHOOL!

  • What does it mean to be competitive for Medical School?

  • Some medical schools have taken the hiring of new faculty out of the hands of faculty so that more sensitive professors are selected.

  • Some now use psychometric tools to help select faculty.

  • Tie breaking usually goes to the underrepresented applicant.

  • Students need to translate their experiences into a statement of who they are & their own mission and then to match their mission to the medical school.

  • Students need to use the MSR & do their own homework.

  • Students should not play the numbers game & apply to numerous (too many) schools.

  • They should match their mission to the schools mission.

  • They should check to see if the schools are accepting out of state applicants.

  • Many students are wasting their money on selecting schools that are not a good match for them.

  • They should match their academic records to what the schools are accepting.

  • Some schools are having trial run for students who don’t qualify

  • They see how they do in a first year watered down medical certificate program & select the ones who do well.

  • Students with low GPAs are getting into medical schools when they encounter a compassionate advisor who gives them advice on how to turn around their situation.

  • There needs to be a tolerance of advisors and students for ambiguity.

  • MMI Tips: Coaching Students To Do Their Best:

  • Look up Business Etiquette because this session was so large a bunch of us had to sit in the hallway and could not see the graphics.

  • The bottom line is that our students have to know business etiquette.

  • Remember if they have been offered an interview they are liked & they have to mess up to be rejected.

  • A few always do mess up because: They forget to shake hands; forget to address panel members by title; lack of enthusiasm; discomfort in their clothes; bad postings on the Internet; etc.

  • Nutrition as a Discipline & a Health Profession (Panel) SA109@columbia.edu – Sharon R. Akabas, Ph.D., Columbia University- Institute of Human Nutrition

  • B.S. now for certification (CNS & RDN) but moving towards M.S. as industry standard

  • Needed, partially, because medical doctors do not study nutrition.

  • Cellular & gene level changes can be made.

  • Certification in Nutritional Science (CNS) – M.S. or Ph.D. in Nutrition + continue to earn CEUs

  • Nutrition is becoming tool of industry for health care & not sick care.

  • They showed us slides of families around the world with their week’s supply of food laid out before them.

  • Water is going to be limiting reagent in near future.

  • Nutritional Related Employment Settings:

  • Advocacy

  • Architecture

  • Agriculture

  • Business & Industry

  • Clinical Dietetics

  • Consultant/Private Practice

  • Communications (Journalism, Media)

  • Culinary Schools & Ventures

  • Education & Research

  • Food & Nutrition Management/Industry & Healthcare Settings (hospitals & long term care facilities)

  • Global Development Health

  • Pharmaceutical Industry

  • Public Health Nutrition

  • Etc.

  • Providing Copy of Power Point

  • Let students do what they love to do as undergraduates & then go to graduate level programs

  • Dinner With Break-out group (I was with the WAAHP’s President-Elect’s Table):

  • Other than talking about what a great time we had at the conferences in Sante Fe & Atlanta, I learned that one or both of the osteopathic schools in Florida are no longer using letters of recommendations from Physicians because they all lie…

  • Also, they have eliminated MCAT scores because they found a correlation between GPA & SAT scores that they believe to more a more accurate indicator of success.

  • To watch to see if it becomes a trend…

  • Advisory Council: Presentation on Media: How We Talk to Our Clients/Student, Their Parents, & the Media – Mitigate Complaints About Health Sciences Advisors:

  • Watch the tone of our voices because we represent them (NAAHP/WAAHP)!!!

  • Watch our body language.

  • Have a genuine interest!

  • Show enthusiasm!

  • Stand up when we talk if we need to raise our energy level.

  • Practice sound bites.

  • We are front line for recruitment.

  • Remember first impression rule.

  • The Health Sciences Schools are paying attention to us & they will complain if we make mistakes.

  • Be consistent.

  • Refresh our data.

  • ACOM gave us an elevator speech handout that included sound bites for our students (please quote them also when we post the information): Audiologists; Chiropractic: Dentists; Medical Doctors; Naturopathic Physicians; Nursing: Occupational Therapy; Doctors of Optometry; Osteopathic Medicine; Pharmacists; Physical Therapists; Physician Assistants; Podiatrists; Public Health; Speech-language Pathologists; Veterinarian

  • We need to develop our media skills & ability to use info graphics.

  • We need to read the literature and be able to articulate it.

  • Students are complaining about us to the higher ups at the health science professional institutions.

  • These complaints are pervasive.

  • For each student, make them feel welcome by outright telling them thank you for coming in to meet with me.

  • Show every single one that we value them.

  • Forget how overburden we are.

  • Remember how we are perceived.

  • Smile.

  • Be punctual.

  • Dress nicely.

  • We are role models for our students.

  • They need confidence and trust in us.

  • Don’t eat or drink while with clients & media people.

  • Use breath mints.

  • What we say & how we say it impacts people’s lives.

  • Don’t respond to questions we can’t answer.

  • Always be prepared.

  • Recognize our personal biases and set them aside.

  • Always remember that even students, who we think will not make it, will make it.

  • A lot of them graduate go to grad school & then apply.

  • They grow up & figure out how to get what they want.

  • Don’t be the person who had discouraged them!

  • When they make it into their program, they are questioned about us.

  • They want us to set a tone so that they what to come back to us and help upcoming students.

  • Headline It, Prove It, Visualize It, Bottom Line It

Headline

Prove

Visualize

Bottom Line

  • Also, don’t say too much to reporters.

  • Give Information

  • Be Short

  • Be Accurate

  • Don’t speak outside our knowledge area.

  • Reporter’s follow-up questions will stump us if we go above our knowledge level.

  • The American Dental’s Association’s www.ExploreHealthCareers.org is the number one site to use with our students

  • We are front line impacting Health Care in USA!

  • Going Beyond the Borders of the Community College to University Transfer: Best Practices for Helping Pre-Health Students Navigate the Challenges of Transfer:

  • Here goes:

  • It is difficult for people to realize the negative occurrences on their campuses are not true for other campuses.

  • During the session she revealed was generalist & not a pre-professional health sciences specialist. Many campuses such as our campus have such specialists.

  • They are blaming the Students Success Act for the failure of counselors having specialties.

  • I suggested that as a team the counselors fight for specialization and use 4CA as their political support.

  • Otherwise, I think the session was great and was presented by a future leader in health sciences counseling. She has done a lot of health sciences advisement on her own time. She is to be commended.

  • What the Medical & other Health Sciences Schools are Saying:

  • Students are taking too many lower division science courses at CC and are running out of financial aid.

  • And, then her co-presenter said just the opposite. ????

  • Having to major in science mindset (not true of course).

  • Students don’t understand admissions statistics and the competitive nature of getting into programs.

  • The universities are claiming that community colleges lack pre-professional school health sciences advisors.

  • Helping with science completion rates at some community colleges is tough & the HUM Waiver approval is above the dean managing counseling (lack of trust in counselors and their deans) on some campuses.

  • Orange Coast Community College has an accelerated pre-med program (approximately 24 students per group) to help the students get into the science courses.

  • The demographic are of this group is mostly affluent upper middle class students.

  • The bottom line:

COMMUNITY COLLEGE COUNSELORS NEED TO JOIN WAAHP!

(This group is expensive to join but the universities pay the memberships. Community college folks are asking for a lower rate since we have to pay for it ourselves.

  • Cultural Competency in Health Care - Pallative Care-CSU (San Marcos) – Helen McNeal:

  • “We are all in this life together… – The ultimate challenge is to live together, caring for one another with respect & understanding for what makes us each unique… Till death us do part.”

15% of USA Health Care Workers are CSU Graduates!

  • Except for medical doctors…

  • CSU Institute for Palliative Care: www.csupalliativecare.org

  • National Center for Cultural Competence: www.nccc.Georgetown.edu

  • Our responsibility as counselors & advisors is to get our students, future health future health care professionals, to educate themselves in cultural competency.

  • FYI: “Palliative care is comfort care given to a patient who has a serious or life-threatening disease, such as cancer, from the time of diagnosis & throughout the course of illness.”

  • To Ease Suffering!

  • Treatment is a team of H.S. Professionals.

  • It is not hospice care which is there for when the patient has less than six months of life remaining.

  • Less reimburse by insurance for palliative care.

  • Palliative care is not always for the dying.

  • CSU System is one of the most diverse in the country.

  • It appears to me that the CSU (CA State University) system is considered a national leader in addressing cultural competency which makes it a leader in helping with cultural competency in palliative care medicine.

  • Took case study approach.

  • Cultural Competency-Cultural Sensitivity-Cultural Humility (am I humble about what I may know about this person?)

  • Have you & your H.S. students spent in depth time learning about a culture other than your/their own?

  • Pay attention to what culture can teach us about each other.

  • The AAMC’s statement on cultural competency is actually very limiting in its expectation.

  • Some issues overlooked by doctors: Need to speak to some patients in their native language, for example a patient in extreme pain had her pain alleviated when someone said to the doctor, “Have you spoken to her in Spanish?” And, when the answer was no found a translator for her.; for patients who are dying, listen to what they want to happen to their children; Health Care providers who speak other languages usually do not have the depth of language needed so bilingual translators are needed; some patients do not understand the modern world & its technology.

  • REMEMBER: “Another person’s culture is not their poor attempt at being you…”

  • Also recognize that we each are a culture of one – we are each unique

  • Do not buy into generic beliefs of being Latino, First Nation, etc.

  • Not everyone connects with everyone…

  • So please ask someone to help.

  • If a doctor is not getting needed answers, then he/she needs to ask a member of their team to help.

  • The Home Health Aid is usually the wisest on what the patient needs (but is often not turned to for help).

  • Bottom Line: We need to help our students realize that being educated as a health care professional extends beyond minimum admissions preparation & everyone needs to be able to address a culture of one.

  • People are dying due to a lack of medical professionals with cultural competency.

  • WIIFM (What’s In It For Me)? Your turn as a patient will come & you will want to be addressed as a culture of one.

  • Poor patients are getting diagnosed in emergency rooms & are going home doctoring themselves with folk medicine.

  • Look to connect with community type promotoras (a lay Hispanic/Latino community member who receives specialized training to provide basic health education in the community without being a professional health care worker).

  • They exist with other names in other communities.

  • CAS Updates Covered: PTCAS, AACOMAS, PharmCAS, AMCAS, AACPMAS (these are about the applications for admissions):

  • Students can brand themselves

  • No best major for PT albeit the majority select Exercise Science

  • Pharmacy Schools hold the strictest code of conduct for applicants.

  • No cut and pasting into the application due to past practice of students copying personal statements from the Internet.

  • High Tech & High Touch = Much Higher Success! LinkedIn & Relationship Marketing for Adding Value to the Health Professions Industry & LinkedIn 101: How to Use LinkedIn Most Effectively in Your Day to Day Advising by Kevin Knebl – Combined Notes from Keynote Address & Break Out Session:

  • He emphasized that LinkedIn is Social Networking.

  • LinkedIn is turning on features for college students.

  • What we need to teach to Health Sciences Students:

  • He treats it as a rolodex – online business card

  • He uses Facebook as his online cocktail party.

  • He uses Twitter.

  • I am connected with him and if you want to connect with him, use me as a reference.

  • One opportunity to make a good first impression online

  • If your grandmother can’t see it, then don’t post it.

  • Low tech – He continues to start each day by hand writing at least 10 personal notes.

  • He says email notes are OK.

  • Optimize Profile by using the 120 characters (headline) and 2000 characters (Summary)

  • Post your own & your employer’s white papers.

  • Post video of yourself presenting.

  • Do Advance Search & save it.

  • Have a cover page (Skylines are nice).

  • READ:

  • Swim With the Sharks Without Being Eaten Alive

  • How to Win Friends & Influence People

  • Speak (say hello) to everyone around you in all aspects of your life!

  • Divide your LinkedIn Contacts into groups of A, B, C for touching

  • A = 15 day touch

  • B = 30 day touch

  • C = 90 day touch

  • Touches:

  • Email

  • Personal Note

  • Phone Call

  • Drop by in person

  • Use the personal interests of your contacts in your touches: i.e. news articles about their alma maters

  • My Own Note: Thank people for connecting with you.

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